[Paraview] holes in distributed polydata
Moreland, Kenneth
kmorel at sandia.gov
Wed Jan 6 12:43:50 EST 2010
Burlen,
Is there any possible way you can send me some data or replicate the problem with something like the Mandelbrot source? So far I have not been able to replicate it exactly.
-Ken
On 1/5/10 2:34 PM, "burlen" <burlen.loring at gmail.com> wrote:
Ken,
Some bad news, this patch didn't solve the problem, the holes returned
on my first run.
Burlen
Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
> That was not intended to be a solution, but rather a diagnostic. My
> guess is that there are precision errors in the rasterization when the
> viewport is shifted. Could you restore vtkIceTRenderManager and try
> the attached patch to IceT?
>
> -Ken
>
>
> On 12/10/09 12:26 PM, "burlen" <burlen.loring at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> it seems to have solved the problems. I say that with fingers
> crossed, I
> haven't seen holes any since your suggested changes, where before
> I was
> seeing them quite often, popping up from time to time.
>
> Burlen
>
> Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
> > Hmm. It is possible that the "floating viewport" feature of IceT
> could
> > be causing troubles with precision. Could you try adding
> >
> > icetDisable(ICET_FLOATING_VIEWPORT);
> >
> >
> > somewhere in the vtkIceTRenderManager::UpdateIceTContext() method and
> > see if the problem goes away?
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/09 10:11 AM, "burlen" <burlen.loring at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> > For that figure you mention I turned on "surface with edges" to
> > show the
> > cell size better. Sorry I can see how that could be confusing. But
> > just
> > to clarify, there aren't actually any holes in the surface.
> >
> > Here is another zoom in of the same area where "surface with
> edges" is
> > off and you can see that there are no holes.
> > http://nashi-submaster.ucsd.edu/movies/PV/bug-zoom.png
> >
> > Now I also have hit a case where after running through D3 I got a
> hole
> > at the process boundary. this run had 80 processes, the surface shown
> > has dimensions of 5.5 x 10 units with 1500 x 2727quads with side
> > 0.0036
> > units.
> > http://nashi-submaster.ucsd.edu/movies/PV/bug-d3.png
> >
> > I am only seeing this with the small quads and in parallel at process
> > boundaries.
> >
> > Burlen
> >
> >
> > Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
> > > Burlen,
> > >
> > > For the zoom in, you say there are no holes/lines, but in the
> image I
> > > see a grid of lines. It looks like you have a bunch of little quads
> > > with spacing in between them. Is this the case? If so, then the
> > "hole"
> > > artifacts you see on the bottom of the screen are probably simply
> > > aliasing artifacts. They are places where the pixel happens to
> align
> > > right where the gap is.
> > >
> > > I can't think of an easy way around this (other than to modify your
> > > data to remove the gaps, if that makes sense). Anti-aliasing
> > > techniques such as oversampling or smoothing would probably fix the
> > > problem, but they would also break the parallel rendering so
> they are
> > > no good.
> > >
> > > -Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/5/09 12:18 AM, "burlen" <burlen.loring at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > its ugly but I get a lot better performance by splitting the
> work up
> > > dynamically with a small grain size. in the run shown below
> there are
> > > only 16 processes but there are a whole lot of process boundaries.
> > >
> > > I was able to reproduce it on a second system today.
> > >
> > > these holes are pretty non-deterministic in where they show up.
> > moving
> > > the camera they can show up in different places. Which makes
> sense if
> > > this is related to some parallel rendering/finite precision issue
> > with
> > > all those process boundaries. The small size of the quads are
> also a
> > > factor, because I didn't ever notice it before when using larger
> > > quads.
> > >
> > > I saved the data as a legacy file and opening it on my desktop
> > > there are
> > > no issues, so its definitely a parallel only issue. Also running
> > > through
> > > D3 seems to fix it, but the issue may still be there because
> with the
> > > minimal number of process boundaries its much less likely to
> get the
> > > camera in just the right position.
> > >
> > > Berk Geveci wrote:
> > > > Ouch. That's very distributed :-) Does the problem go away
> when you
> > > > decrease the number of partitions?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, burlen <burlen.loring at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm seeing lines where the background shows through a surface
> > > polydata of
> > > >> quads. When I zoom into the region to investigate the holes are
> > > gone. Moving
> > > >> the image around the holes appear in different places. They
> > > depend on camera
> > > >> position. In this surface there are 2.5E6 quads. the area is
> > > 10x16 units and
> > > >> the number of quads is 1250x2000. each quad has 0.008 units on a
> > > side. I
> > > >> hadn't seen the holes before going to this higher resolution.
> > > It's likely
> > > >> that the hole is near a process boundary, in my polydata filter
> > > each process
> > > >> adds his quads to his output polydata, in this run the quads are
> > > distributed
> > > >> in strips of 512 as needed.
> > > >>
> > > >> 3 holes/lines in bottom half of the image (black background
> > > shows through):
> > > >> http://nashi-submaster.ucsd.edu/movies/PV/bug.png
> > > >>
> > > >> zoom in no holes/lines:
> > > >> http://nashi-submaster.ucsd.edu/movies/PV/bug-zoom-2.png
> > > >>
> > > >> process boundaries (from process id filter):
> > > >> http://nashi-submaster.ucsd.edu/movies/PV/bug-procs.png
> > > >>
> > > >> Should PV be able to handle a polydata distributed like this?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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